He developed cancer. I just noticed their masks, and the fact that their desks had plastic partitions. Phase three, you're kind of over it. And he's like, I wonder if you guys might need a song, like a mixtape song for the end of that show that you're doing. Newsy stories that try to capture what. Yeah. Susan looks very nervous. And I'm thinking about race more. They said yes, but if we see any alcohol, we're shutting it down. From the time that I was told that I had Alzheimer's to now, the things that I had let go of because kinds of things in physics that I used to teach I can't even tell you what it is. It's not easy being with kids all the time. It didn't mention his seizures, or his diabetes, or that he used a walker toward the end of his life. But I didn't think she was any smarter than I was. In most auntie songs, we hear the other woman passively waiting for the man to make time for her. Someone turns up the music, and a corner of the basement suddenly becomes a dance floor. A very red-faced man leans his face out the window. And now I can go with a clock--. 204: 81 Words. Two seasons of the show have aired on Showtime.The second season finale aired on September 3, 2008, and Showtime aired one final episode in May 2009. In all, Ken dictated 692 music reviews, give or take, over just a couple of years. At the nursing home, he was Ken. Ask him. And so the girl in front of me, her last name started with S also. But with music, that feels like wondrous and full of possibility. Act Four: Old Age. It's funny that something that deeply felt was communicated and received, and yet remained unspoken. The choices I'm making, the work I'm doing, the place I live, how I'm spending my time, and how I'm not spending my time. And he yells at us. Wow. It was January 29, 1984. Or the teacher calling the nigger. I was walking down the street in Cocoa Beach, Florida. Ira Glass. Music help from Damian Graef and Rob Geddis. People looking ahead in time for clues of what's to come, and looking back at the remarkable facts that they somehow missed. That it can confess devotion on our behalf, even in the form of an exploded puzzle. Wow, I'm really just-- I'm really just conflicting myself everywhere. And he'd point out the window. I'm talking about it more in my act. This is from when he listened to Captain Beefheart's "Tropical Hot Dog Night. I totally can't imagine that. And The Casuals played at David's wedding party, where Ken was a guest. In "Secret Lovers," by Atlantic Starr, a pair of lovers are both devoted to other people, yet unable to stop their attraction. Now I can't get a cookie. No, certainly not. In the front row, there's a grandpa wiping his eyes. Why do I have to go to school? It's the smallest little thing. Compared to Ken, who was Black, a World War II vet in his mid-60s, and for whom going to shows was well in the past. You could just see their face change if another white person came into the room or down the hall. I've never heard of that before. Yeah. So we fought a lot. OK. 139.162.162.108 If she's buying cute little dresses for all of her daughters, I shouldn't be the one that didn't get the dress and have to wait till my fat sister outgrew it and then I get it. Act Three: Middle Age. You guys are fine. I don't remember us having too many deep conversations. The masks and the heaviness of the year were still there, but my brain didn't focus on them. Yes, totally. And honestly, mostly what I saw was not the pictures of the kids being cute. And it's just dead hard. He also had diabetes, semiparalysis on his left side, and he had no family to speak of. Of all the stuff we talked about, this is the part that made me the most sad. It's a pretty broad range, right? We never had a choice in the matter. It is difficult. Keep reading on this page to find out if you're eligible for a copay exemption. Join us next week for more stories of This American Life. I picture a lovelorn Josh sitting in his bedroom, like waiting, like wondering, like, when is she going call me? It's a song about unburdening yourself, getting whatever it is off your chest through music. We'd be dancing, and along comes a pounder, which is a cop, and he says all right now, break it up. There's no song. I wait anxiously alone by the phone." [2] It is broadcast on numerous public radio stations in the United States and internationally, and is also available as a free weekly podcast. I made you a mixtape. It just so happened he was committed to someone else. They change every day. I have it a lot. This, of course, is Josh. Now that I've gotten older and sat through my fair share of therapy, I've been trying to let some of that resentment go. These two characters, Christian and Satine, just hurl lines from famous love songs back and forth at each other. This American Life: Created by Adam Beckman, Alex Blumberg, Ira Glass, David Schisgall, Julie Snyder, Christopher Wilcha. I'm Sean Cole, sitting in for Ira Glass. And you could practically hear him blushing when I told him that he had put "Elephant Love Medley" on there. David brought Ken to one of their shows. BEEPED VERSION. After about an hour, kids started calling their friends telling them to not bother coming in. And a 2 represents 10. (SINGING) --don't force that. Yeah, I mean, that's true. And host Ira Glass introduces two special co-hosts for today's show. So you take the authority, and you say, I have the right to show up at this person's house because I'm old. And a small guy with glasses and a comic book name Bernard Arthur keeps shaking his head. The R Kelly song, "The World's Greatest," which for a number of reasons, you can no longer really do. And fine, if you don't, well, never mind. He nodded and he said, well, "happiness" was in there, anyway. It was horrible. The E at the end of love-- or maybe the beginning of Erin-- was "Elephant Love Medley" from the movie Moulin Rouge, which itself works a little like a mixtape. Sometimes you run into a cop saying, hey, that's my cousin you're dancing with, boy. She says you know who you are." I mean, I'm sure she'd like you guys if she met you. I'm normal in that way. But I do feel like I like, I guess, felt a separation or felt like, I guess, resentment for you having your own thing and me having my own thing. It happened with my friend Paul and me when we were kids and he turned me onto some of the music I still listen to. And I'm going to be applying to college soon. The toilet is full of beer cans. And if they could, I damn sure could do it myself. Coming up, they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it can also make you a beloved rock critic, at least in one case. And she goes, memories. I would say, don't let other people decide who's going to come to your house. It was never in a ironic way. Download Transcript Gracia Lam Note: The internet version of this episode contains un-beeped curse words. Track Four, What's the Frequency, Kenneth? But I say, it's slang, it's groovy. He was a friend. Like Jasper Pena says, when he asks what seems like a pretty simple question, sometimes grown-ups say--. A dementia diagnosis is being told you are now no longer going to understand things as you get older. Later, I will realize that here is where I stopped breathing. It was like, you know, you'd get moved into the hallway. I knew that in the '60s, my mom became one of the first black students to integrate a white junior high school in Forrest City, Arkansas. And so I started asking her questions about this. That was meant to be a thing that I would have done with him. In September 2009, Glass announced that he and the . One of the lists has a little note on it that says, "Dave, is it OK to put your own thing on here? He's just like, whoa, this thing's just rolling over me. This American Life is produced in collaboration with WBEZ Chicago and delivered to stations by PRX The Public Radio Exchange. I'm Chana Joffe-Walt. Here's Nichole. Carl was diagnosed with Alzheimer's a year and a half ago at age 79. There's a letter in my desk at work. They tell him they're going to text invites to, like, 30 people. Like that's the analogy where I fully understood. Hold your tongue. Four or five more girls asked for Ben's address. Her uncle saw her out one night with him. Well, in reality, I never pictured myself as one of those kids. I talk in twos. Act Three Middle Age Host Chana Joffe-Walt worries she'll have regrets in 20 years. It was a lot of emotion, which I felt terrible for missing. Until a few months ago, I knew very little about what she went through. I was no fool. Living is hard. Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print. (9minutes), Megan Tan never felt close to her father. What her mother was teaching her was the same thing her country was teaching her, that her blackness was less valuable. We are all leaning in. Any of it? And I mean, this is stuff I read in the newspaper, how she was sympathetic to what they were going through. So if you could go back in time, you wouldn't even do it? Cassettes. But that's mostly because we talked less. Yeah, it felt like time was moving so slowly, and the pictures didn't have any of their meaning, or at least not the meaning that I wanted. I'm more of a weirdo than I thought in this way which I don't usually think of myself at all. I was crying. Ken also drank a lot back in the day. You learn what you need to know when you need to know it. Enjoy. He told me there are three phases when it comes to blowing up parties. And one particular day--. And it happened with Ken and David. And I was like, Star made me cry. Or rather, we have people arriving at the answers themselves, with or without the help of others. I should say that the entire premise of this show, the idea that there are certain things that do not make sense when you're young, it is flat out offensive to the people at the beginning of our story. All right. Carl's wearing a watch, but it's small. And it takes 10 seconds. Special steps were taken to please you, so you know they cares about you. So I'm not sure how I feel about it because I can't get my hands on you. She recorded their last dinner party, and assures producer Brian Reed that this is a typical dinner for them. But in auntie songs, forever was a stolen night. That's definitely why you didn't cry. In it, 24 year old Jonathan, an undocumented immigrant, walks straight into a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement office, tells an officer he doesn't have papers, and gets himself arrested. Every moment, I was either working or asleep. Probably only God knows the answer. Track Five, I Talk In Tunes. I just need to pause here for a second and talk about the reason David wrote down what Ken had to say about The Shaggs. But that was two years ago, Ira. There's people I like. We don't really get to spend very much time. First, I just asked him what he remembered about Erin. I said it back to him. It wouldn't be a graduation without a slideshow. As you say today, "nice." My life would have been totally different otherwise. The short stubby one. And a bunch of slides in, a kid on Zoom unmuted himself to say something random, like my dog smells. And you get told it ain't your business. She would listen to them. But my mother wouldn't let me be curious about her. I mean, if it's something serious and it's a friend, obviously you want to hear about it. But there is a gap between your immaturity and your maturity where you're still immature but you think you aren't. Any time I would happen to drive by her place, I would think, like, the one that got away. And I will always believe they did that because we were too close. And this one girl turned around, boxed me out of the circle, and was like, "why don't you go back and play with your little white friends?". She just hadn't felt the same. The song is a groovy slow jam made for a two-step and eye contact, perfect for a woman who refuses to feel remorseful about receiving love from unexpected places. No, that's exactly what this slideshow felt like. Do you see it as a--. Not just because of you. And in some pictures, they're wearing winter coats indoors because they have to have the windows open for ventilation. But friends for a long time. There's no stopping them now. But I think-- I assumed that question came because I mostly had white friends. I was more interested in "auntie songs," the songs from the point of view of the other woman. This is the stuff of schoolgirl crushes, of clumsy rom-com heroines, of swooning damsels everywhere. In "Saving All My Love For You," Whitney Houston calls out her lover's lies, even as she continues to wait for him. 13 Weeks of access to all Premium Content and our E-Edition . I know. Mohamedou Slahi was tortured, on one occasion beaten quite badly. I feel like what I am getting from all of this is that you and I have many things in common. She was part of history. Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors. I don't know. Act Three Health Transcript Deborah Lott comes from a family that obsesses over health. Their parents were friends. I have to do what I have to do, but I'm exposed. Maybe he knew he was getting worse. Why did he do it? After about three months of constant communication, he came back to New Orleans for another visit. You laughed at me. You can review information about all of our residence halls on our website. And people were looking in the bushes and crawling to all the different windows, looking in, seeing who's in there. Nothing is turned away. I'm going to call your mama and tell her what you doing up here." And that's how I felt about Bayard. For the rest of Ben's freshman year, he was terrified of older kids. That's one I think about a lot. Their parents were friends. They're not even talking to us right now. She comes from like, this little town, and it's like Un Bolero-- you know, like just a traditional like, small town ballad that was sung about the town that she was from. This was a ransomware attack this past October at one of the largest nonprofit hospital chains in the country. Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors. But the more questions I asked, especially about school, the more I felt like she didn't want to talk about it because it's still really painful to her. They can go. Fact checking by Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Rudy Lee, and Christopher Swetala. And I remember looking down at my legs and how the rocks had pelted them. And it isn't easy. With filmmaker Maisie Crow, we recorded the day Roe v. Wade was overturned in the . Carl sat with his tools and his paper and his physicist's desire to decompose the problem before him. For the first time in your life, the chronological forward march of knowledge will begin to reverse itself. She wants an actual person. But yeah, you said-- you asked, "are you afraid of black people?" In the first official Ken's Corner column, Issue 29, he reviewed "Money Won't Buy You Happiness" by The Incredible Casuals. Sometimes David would play an artist Ken had heard before, like Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley. Whereas Ken had always said he wanted to know what was going on out in the world, now Ken was what was going on out in the world. I told him it was "TWA." She cheers for the days of the week. I was freaking out the entire time. (5 minutes) By Chana Joffe-Walt Song: "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" by Edith Piaf (radio only) Act Four Old Age For those in the early stages of dementia, some simple tasks become very complex. Loves them. And it had a Confederate flag vanity plate. And he doesn't seem to know how to deal with the fact that it's covered by part of his sleeve. As I said, I was kind of intimidated by her, you know? Types because you have three different elevations that you have to get together to make the information. He and Erin did plays together, actually-- musicals at this little community theater in town. Nichole Perkins is a writer from Nashville, Tennessee. We all watched a very sweet slideshow the teacher put together, and I felt nothing. So let's start at the beginning. It's kind of cool that it happened in its own time. From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life. Do you love him? But you're wondering, was I plagued by doubt? This is just some songs. He studied motion, electromagnetism. There is one song-- Bess and Rachel both mentioned it-- that was the perfect slideshow song in all the ways. In a way, to me, they're medicine. 801: Must Be Rats on the Brain Note: This American Life is produced for the ear and designed to be heard. Anyway, this year, I joined my child's class by Zoom, and I knew what to expect. The care he showed me was a fantasy I'd never allowed myself to indulge. You've got the moon, and a sucker singing like this, and girls walking around in little slips that you can see right through. I saw a girl who couldn't read last year standing at the board with the pointer stick reading to everyone. Man, you're going to do it. And he's so encouraging. They were in touch with me, I got my name onto his chart. Pop songs, high energy songs, those are the best. Well-- I don't know. This American Life ( TAL) is an American weekly hour-long radio program produced in collaboration with Chicago Public Media and hosted by Ira Glass. Stuff eventually makes sense. A better singer too, who could have come more clear with it. And without music, it feels just like the clicking of us all towards--. So he witnessed the kids throwing rocks at us. We didn't get the opportunity to develop how we thought about it. Which really screwed me up because my mom's black. I decided to shoot my shot. How do you feel about me asking you these questions? She says she just forgot to put music in. 01:55 - Source: CNN CNN Though it's roughly the size of a minivan, with five adults aboard, the Titanic-touring submersible that went missing Sunday may seem small and cramped. Of course he was involved with someone. Say what you mean, oh. Ben looks around. He was engaged to be married, and for the most part, I didn't care. I'm still freaking out about it just thinking about it. You're an innocent, naive little freshman. He looked up at the tester, back down toward his page. He wanted some identity outside of just being a frail guy whose body's breaking down. And then when she gets to me and she's tired, she just throws a few plaits on my head and they're going every which a'way. I'm talking to your grandfather." Or he's at Magazine Beach, where he used to be a lifeguard. Note: This American Life is produced for the ear and designed to be heard. Back when Erin was in high school, she had this friend, Josh. I shouldn't be the one that when it's time to comb hair, make their hair look cute. This is your fault. So whoever was an outsider was like, I got to know what's going on out there. I could soft shoe with that. 100%. Like "End of the Road"-- I [BLEEP] wish it was the end of the road. But my grandmother basically forced my mom and several of her siblings to join the civil rights movement as pre-teens and go to a school where they weren't wanted. He's surrounded by strangers-- older strangers. I still haven't figured that out yet. I got out the tool that I have for doing this kind of work. And it's not only from my mom. Prologue Prologue What happens when an emergency room nurse has an emergency? And when Ken got to meet some of the musicians he reviewed, weirdly, it was Ken who was the celebrity in those interactions. They had the ear of a caring adult. But I'm getting older. Said that if David didn't go ahead and marry his girlfriend, he was going to meet up with her on the corner with two bottles of John Jameson. And at some point, I started to focus a lot of my anger over their divorce onto her. Or a lot of times, this is what I'm feeling right now. I dutifully uploaded it into my iTunes and listened to it, and didn't think much of it. "Then I had to come back here and who's waiting for me at the front door but the gorilla. This American Life is true stories that unfold like little movies for radio. Songs like these make the other woman a Villain with a capital V. Those songs weren't for me. And then a bunch of older kids show up. I also knew I wasn't the first woman he cheated on her with. And she explained to me that she and other Black kids of her generation were terrified going to this history museum called The Great Blacks in Wax. That's what the cat said. "I hope you had the time of your life." You can't. Wow. maybe it was 2:00 in the morning or something. Yeah. I don't know the answer, but I know that God knows it. And on the dive. I mean, literally. Reacting to "The Lord's Prayer" by the Beach Boys, he said, "I was a Methodist, and then when they sent me to school they switched me around and made me a Catholic. Yeah, there is, he finally said. David Ellis Dickerson tells the story of heading home to Tucson after six years away, having rejected the evangelical Christianity of his family. They've all got examples of questions they asked recently that were met with some version of, you'll understand later. See if I felt the right things. There was a class for kids that were extremely smart. But all the other songs Bess and Rachel recommended, they all just feel too sentimental. One was "Yellow" by Coldplay. Well, let me put it this way. And I get frustrated when they say that. Didn't remember any of the songs that were on it. I don't know if everybody else could. Nurturing a crush. A few weeks after that candlelit visit, I was unexpectedly hospitalized and Bayard was there for me. That was the first I ever heard that or, like, it's ever been used to me. Every day of the eighth grade I was a different flavor of nigger. Enid Rey is a powerhouse. She always made me feel like I was the runt of the litter. It was for him to hear, and that wasn't possible. It was pretty scarring. He would have seizures, so he had had some kind of brain surgery, and you could see the scar on his head from that, so that affected how he could walk along. "Sitting at home, I do nothing all day but think about you and hope that you're OK, hoping you'll call before anyone gets home. Expert--, If you want to know more about David and his work, you can go to DavidGreenberger.com. --they don't realize is going to affect their kids like that. He's buried with the tape. I quote, "it ain't your business.". There it is. I wanted to see them. Never talk about your period. This American Life is delivered to public radio stations by PRX, the Public Radio Exchange. When Carl talks, his wife Susan is completely still, listening, hanging on the details so she doesn't miss anything, jumping in with words when they're needed. And like those first-time-listening reaction videos that are on YouTube and TikTok now, it helped if you already knew the song he was talking about, because it allowed you to hear it through new ears, Ken's ears. But if I don't show up, nothing is going to change. This is love. My friend David Greenberger was the activities director there in the late '70s and early '80s. What did he tell you about me? The clock thing comes up in her support group for spouses of people with dementia. It's on the Earwolf network. He had a level of respect. But my mother, on the other hand, did. I wasn't expecting it because it was for my second grader, and he wasn't graduating anything. And at these parties, the parents are home. Part of their job is hunting for exactly the right song for the occasion. Yeah. So--. Keep going. And I never really did think about this. So I started the job the beginning of '79, and I'd met Ken probably immediately because he walked with a walker, and he would sit himself right by-- there was a desk for the activities director, and there was, like, a cabin with stuff in it. She was not the object of desire, she was in control of it. I know for a fact that Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire could dance to that. Yeah, I don't-- I can't-- I mean, without music-- first of all, like I feel like even though, at this point, we wouldn't be having slideshows actually using, like, slides in, like, an old rotary, I still feel like if you're doing it without music, you can't help but hear, like, a clicking sound. I'm Chana Joffe-Walt sitting in for Ira Glass. Ask him. But right now, it seems like you are very singularly directed. I wanted to see people. And you might think "Elephant Love Medley" alone would be a dead giveaway. There are little things that I remember from my childhood. Early on in his job at the nursing home, David started a small magazine, a zine, called The Duplex Planet. He took a long time to answer, which was answer enough. I went to school with all sorts of kids. Between 2020 and 2022 the share of Americans who vowed to vote only for pro-choice candidates nearly doubled; in the five years to 2023 the percentage who say third-trimester abortions should be . The auntie songs once gave me strength, and now they gave me permission to cry. I didn't bring up the mixtape right away when I talked to him. He was my friend. And that makes me actually the very worst person to ask this advice from. Ken was a talker. Because that's what asking for an address meant to me at this time, like, completely innocent thing. Making volcanoes, nope. Nobody cares. It was going to happen anyway. [MUSIC - "ELEPHANT LOVE MEDLEY" FROM MOULIN ROUGE]. And that is a new form of intimidation. Maybe you can tell me why, when I try to communicate, you probably see another fancy dan. Act One, Adolescence. And I realized that that's just like the circle of life in high school. And listening back to the recording of our conversation, I couldn't believe how many times I asked her if she was proud of her contribution. It's really about how you would talk with a friend while you're listening to music. But it wasn't the white kids. "I had a ball that night," he said, in his review of The Easy Beats "Friday On My Mind." I got called the n-word once in my life, thankfully. You're like, here's this thing. Instead, I saw a picture I had totally missed of my kid leading a group of friends in some sort of stomping game in the yard. That's in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues. Carl got a graduate degree in physics. That's cool. And like most kids, I ignored them because she's my mom. I didn't have the things I was supposed to in order to be attractive. Apparently, there were a lot of women in Ken's life. And then goes upstairs. They try to deal with it themselves. Well, today on our show, we have answers. Oh. He was married a few months later. (SINGING) This pretty planet spinning through space, your garden, your harbor, your holy place. So this is Track Three, The End of the Road. But I guess we were too friendly. And there are things you do not know. She does a lot of her own stand-up. But you stayed mad at your mother for the rest of her life. He emailed me from the honeymoon. Does he love you? She's a full head taller than Carl. At least three kids at the table raise a finger and politely say, "um, I'd like to add to that." Yes. Of course, it happened in Florida. And I'm going to regret these choices in 20 years in my 50s? I was dark. Where is it? I don't know. David still has them. And her life before being my mom didn't really concern me. I just felt sort of numb. But this is the last one in the last Ken's Corner column in Issue 55. It did quote from one of his reviews. But he had girlfriends, and not always happily. "End of the Road," that's--. "This Diamond Ring" by Gary Lewis and the Playboys. She was a white girl. So I thought I'd try. In today's show, we've got stories of people at a moment of understanding something they could not have grasped before when they were younger-- stories from childhood, 10 years old, all the way up through old age, 79. Our program was produced today by Zoe Chace with Sean Cole, Neil Drumming, Stephanie Foo, Miki Meek, Jonathan Menjivar, Robyn Semien, Alissa Shipp, and Nancy Updike. Yeah, I guess it's not just moments. I just got distracted by them trying to shove the guy in the oven. He started getting those texts saying there's a party happening at so-and-so's and house. Don't talk about your health, either. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7de1cf99aee33689 It's like a military raid. He was a lovely, nerdy thing with a shaved head and freckles, a sprinkle of joy across his nose and cheeks, and a few dots on his lips that were clearly targets for my affection. Why is this so difficult? But for a long time, I didn't think so. But what was happening here is different from those movies in one key way, a way that seems to be specific to my town and towns nearby. and Berger is B-E-R-G-E-R. I felt a little paranoid that I had so many white friends, like it was a bad thing. So here's what happened. And it didn't work because it was a song everyone knew or because the lyrics tell you how to feel. I mean, the thing that's different for you is a desire for free time. And then this one review was such an intricate, multilayered, yet subtly murderous pan. You don't have to get into it i you don't want to. To be clear, not necessarily to draw a clock, but to figure out why he couldn't draw a clock. She likes being in charge. Let's talk. I don't think it was ineffective. We can't wait to play them for you. This American Life is a weekly public radio show, heard by 2.2 million people on more than 500 stations. But mostly, it was stuff that was all new to him. So instead of spelling out "I love you, Erin," it said, "Nire ouy evol I." It's This American Life. There's the hours that are represented from 1 through 12, even though there are 24 hours in a day.
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