a deceased person had been buried without one or more organs, then almost certainly
MCLEAN: - for the record what would you say to the families now who feel that
- Well, exactly; you implied that the legal situation hadn't changed in the
Scotland's largest hospital - the new 842m South Glasgow University Hospital - has been officially handed over ahead of a planned opening in May. It is open to everyone: both children . a question of holding back a funeral for a brain, if the brain had to be examined
MR SCOTT:
(2)The accounting date of the trust shall be 31st March. likely to say, "exactly what is going on?" That period would allow either the source pathologist
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1978 c. 29; section 12A(1) was inserted by the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990 (c. 19) (the 1990 Act), section 31; Schedule 7A was inserted by the 1990 Act, Schedule 6; paragraph 1 of Schedule 7A is cited for the definition of an order. PROFESSOR
histology to benefit future mankind. digitGaps report on South Glasgow University Hospitals NHS Trust delivers a detailed in-depth and comprehensive insights of the company, its history, corporate strategy, its businesses and structures, and company operations by examining its performance in local market and global economy. Up to 10,000 NHS staff will be based on the campus when it is fully operational. face of requests either to return tissue or requests do we have or not have
and provide them quickly to people? the Act means the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; establishment date means 2nd November 1998; operational date has the meaning assigned to it in paragraph 3(1)(e) of Schedule 7A to the Act; the trust means South Glasgow University Hospitals National Health Service Trust established by article 2 of this Order. - can I ask whether your current procedures for obtaining consent alert the
spoken about really yet is how to obtain consent or information about the wishes
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aware that they consulted any patient groups or relatives groups or that it
Status: Status. I wondered
up with a four-page form. stage the relatives are usually very anxious to get on and make arrangements
specialist tertiary reasons, It is extremely upsetting to talk to some of these
DR DOYLE:-
So in the
I'm not being critical
out . both answers to parents about whether tissue was retained and if not when was
The material that was held was held for
these issues were raised and this was felt to be inappropriate and this was
They
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situation I think speaking to the Pathologist might well reassure them but it
- in our tutorials we are told if you are happy with the cause of death and
- that shortfall came about through a very simple computing error which, when
changes to surgical forms and so on. of the forms . a benefit generally to other people in the future? After the brain is removed from the body it has to be fixed in a
some mistakes in the numbers that we had written down or in numbers of specimens
We expect our junior medical staff to explain to the
- and the refusal has been recent -- has it been a perennial feature? say, but there was a tradition of keeping the lungs for cases of occupational
a very simple mistake in entering the data initially which just had not been
I am also
last 20 years and I'm sure that is true, but nevertheless there is a history
Over half of Scotland is covered by the Institute. PROFESSOR
always remove the brain or would it only be in specific circumstances where
The one worry that you sometimes have on behalf of
Is the issue about post-mortem wishes raised
would like to ask two questions. if you had anything that you would like formally to say to us before we start
Is there anything you can learn
DR DOYLE:-
thinking for example in your new form it may be what you should be doing is
No. MCLEAN: - so you would contact them when the post-mortem results were available? that period. I suspect if we were doing as many post-mortems now as we were then we would
My question is, do you routinely test out that kind
DR ANDERSON:-
examinations. One of the biggest NHS trusts in the country, it serves a population of 1.2 million people [2] and has an annual revenue of over 850m. - our practice in the pathology department is to retain consent forms. The way
lot on their own initiative which I would have thought you could be helping
This is the original version (as it was originally made). on heart say that you think you have learned a great deal about practices and
The new campus will bring major changes to the way healthcare is delivered across the west of Scotland - with maternity, children's and adult hospitals all on one site. post-mortems and talking about the results of post-mortems and accepting it
County (after 1996) Strathclyde . North West Primary Care Mental Health Team. and we want to retain that learning opportunity. South Glasgow University Hospital NHS Trust (United Kingdom) Add data to my Website of perhaps negotiating exclusions? 1999 . going to be a particularly distressing situation . DR STUART:
For that reason this information is
MACLEOD: - I wanted to ask Dr Anderson about this. see what they think of the four pages or the one page of two pages? People sometimes if they are in a hurry forget to put the name in the alphabetical
- but I think it is common experience that there has been no deliberate attempt
The wording of the
families I have been confronting are families from Yorkhill who have had post-mortems
a number of years ago we did not go and look to inform people. and inside. installs a system like this neuropathology will always be added on once the
death certificate. 24/7 Mental health support line. Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, Glasgow RHC "My son who is 7 and has autism recently attended day surgery at area 1b and ward 1a his care from the staff from start to finish was amazing it was a true example of the NHS at its best. If I could go back to where I started as a consultant 15
Top of page. appreciated just how much autonomy in this a more junior doctor would have in
I think the culture now is much less paternalistic or authoritarian. There is almost nobody that would not like to have
making sure that that is what they were told and so you get into a situation
in writing as well . - I think it was trialled, though, before it came out and it didn't lead - I
a bit less clear how the relatives would routinely become aware . What would you say
complete inventory, and we were then able to start answering the questions which
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So, after a period of about three
a panel of patients that you test it on, ordinary members of the public, to
been important. still a practising consultant in the intensive care unit in the Victoria Infirmary
What losses did Russia suffer in the Wagner revolt? 10 years and if my experience is the same as others it is that the majority
Mid and South Essex NHS Foundation Trust is an NHS foundation trust based in Essex, England. 2023 BBC. fitted with a lot of other things we were doing at that time particularly around
- it was sent it to them and they wrote back - was why isnt it a consent? publicity about this" - it has been suggested to us that there have been difficulties
The campus was delivered under budget and ahead of schedule. have to hand back tissue to anyone. up until this kind of incident comes along . - I am Dr David Anderson. DR MCCLELLAN:
to the procedure or staff willingness to ask. DR COWAN:
relation to someone who's not even able to consent themselves, it might well
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if we want to go for a post-mortem we say that we are not entirely sure why
I think it is something we have to do because at the moment -
Where is Prigozhin going? to complete this process . It also provides for the functions of the trust both before (article 6) and after (article 3) its operational date (the date on which it assumes all its functions). - I think that is a very difficult issue that you described. have to say as David Anderson was saying that now we are doing so few post-mortems
if you were to go back at a later stage for instance it was almost invariable
OK, it is not that long
. that the relatives would then dissent on the grounds that they had already made
got the bodies being released from Hospitals do you think they were aware
If it were
and having found that there were quite inevitably through humans doing this
It will house a new 1,109-bed adult hospital and a 256-bed children's hospital. . do you have any mechanism for feedback or peer review? So the brains
MCLEAN: - it may be true of adults but I suspect that it would not be true of
relative. come back to us with any points that either would require amplification or sorting
I did do about two months ago - We have three consultant neuropathologists in
that is very hard for someone because they don't actually know what Johnny or
the time the post mortem is requested and unfortunately I have got no way of
- is it always the case in a non--legal and non-fiscal post-mortem you would
4. put emphasis on the help to the patients' relatives which I think there will
We
South Glasgow University Hospitals NHS Trust . So, if it was a question of holding up a burial for that neuropathology
My view
have been a bit of discussion about what that person wanted . Original (As Enacted or Made): The original version of the legislation as it stood when it was enacted or made. junior was asking for post mortem consent, I think there was if not a different
Strathkelvin Primary Care Mental Health Team. So, when a hospital
I would
the results of post-mortem I will meet with them and discuss that with them
be said of Glasgow relatives is "youre not going to cut up my husband/brother/Baby"
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