It can be informative, entertaining, thoughtful. And sometimes I scare myself when I - and I get comfortable there. You can view The Poynter Institutes most-recent public financial disclosure form 990, Poynter ACES Introductory Certificate in Editing, actor Adam Driver abruptly walked out of an interview, Reporters Without Borders is out with its sobering numbers for 2019, the two co-hosts addressed their on-air dustup on Tuesday, sex trafficker killed by one of his victims, Essential Skills for Rising Newsroom Leaders, Fact-checkers bus tour taught older people in Spain useful internet tips. Driver asking Fresh Air to avoid playing a clip of his acting during the interview is not asking the show to abandon what journalistic principles it might have. He simply took off his headphones and walked out, ultimately missing out on publicity for his projects. Terry: No, its not. Williams died Monday. Accuracy and availability may vary. Terry Gross. I used to think that a journalist and reporter were the same thing, and therefore I wasnt a journalist. Visions of Valeria: A young woman began her career at TV Rain. So, you know, I just - you know, Seal was really big at the time and, you know, he had just had all the media for putting his tribal marks on his face. WebGross, who has been host of Fresh Air since 1975, when it was broadcast only in greater Philadelphia, isn't afraid to ask tough questions. A great interview is one of the journalists most powerful tools. She'd rather laugh. And he just - he never judged. But, you know, I like to think that people are not scared of him is why they do that. That was a very jagged pill to swallow - didn't do well with that one. He was a dark soul, tortured soul. GROSS: My interview with Michael K. Williams was recorded in 2008 during the final season of "The Wire." WILLIAMS: Yeah. I'm like, I think it needs to happen now. That story was confirmed by Fresh Air executive producer Danny Miller in astatement to Vanity Fair. We come in, we talk to each other, sometimes were not as polite as we could be. And I was really serious about that. The original starred Neil Patrick Harris. It was a release. Thinking she had just months to live, Laura Dern's mother 'spilled the beans' Jesse: They really like you. Its all good. Terry: Yeah. Jazz Night In America: The Radio Program Very Very Henry Threadgill DAVE DAVIES, HOST: This is FRESH AIR. Jesse: At any point along the way, did you think that you should be doing something else? It's a old figure speech in the streets. They think youre wonderful. He never, you know, he just nudged, you know. He's just going to walk out in his robe and go to the store. A veteran journalist who got what she asked for by ignoring a reasonable request? Like most Fresh Air interviews, this one took place with Gross in her Philadelphia studio and her guest in another. And so I just didn't have that skill. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He got tired. He will continue to contribute interviews occasionally. I dont know how people do it. Jesse: Are you self-conscious about the way that you look? And yeah, I mean, it's just, like - my family was really fed up. Rape a girl? They was like, as soon as - they see, like, he's starting to get his life together, he goes left again. What tabloid reporting taught me about journalism. She knows how to have fun. Moss-Coane wraps 35 years of Radio Times, Past producers recall working on Phillys longtime daily call-in radio show. Like, how do you come to these two dark-skinned, strong-minded Black men, strong-willed Black men - as we say in the hood - these two kings? One of my life goals has always been to work less. We'll hear more of the interview after a break. Feeling good - that's got to come - it's got to come from the inside out, not the outside in. He just never stopped. Terry: No, because I felt that being an interviewer just suited me. Tom Jones is Poynters senior media writer for Poynter.org. It can't be anything outward that makes you feel good about yourself. So its very useful to do that. WILLIAMS: I play Omar from a very painful place. Privacy Policy. You know, I went somewhere personally. I Learned to Code but the Instructions Were From 2001 and Now I Only Know How To Make Farscape Fan Sites, All Dogs Go to Heaven: How To Exploit That Loophole by Impersonating a Dachshund at All Times, So You Made Plans on Adderall: Heres Five Ways To Fake Your Death, We Ranked the Top 20 Punk Christmas Songs and Deeply Regret Picking Such a High Number When We Pitched This List, Christmas List Confused for Set List Leads to Multiple Songs About Tonka Trucks, Coward Hour Coil Exclusive: Entrapped by the FBI. After Russian troops invaded Ukraine, she was twice exiled. Well, with "The Wire," we just - we've covered that. Further, she is consistently excluded from work meetings, calls and emails.. This is our jobs. Ay (ph) yo, big man, back up. I feel really lucky. I came through those doors, I was broken. I wanted to fall in love with work, and I did. And I'm just proud of the fact that she even, you know, loves me and hasn't, like, kicked me out of her life for the crap I put her through. Wheres the lie? I tell you something else. Terry: Oh my god, no [laughs]. So how did you find that place in yourself so that you could portray that kind of power? I'm like, no one in their right mind who knows me - I said, it's over now. Paddling in the middle of a fast moving stream of news and information. If Im interviewing somebody who is involved with politics, my goal is probably not the empathy kind of interview. One of my favorite parts about the end of the year is end-of-the-year lists. Tomorrow's a better day. Or is it not a problem for you? Poet Laureate Joy Harjo to dump them out live on air, according to a statement from the network. I dont know enough. Tonya Mosley, who recently was a host of the NPR show Here and Now, will share interviewing duties with Gross. So, you know, Omar in my book and my eyes, I don't play Omar as a alpha male, not one to beat on his chest. It doesn't make you dirty, you know. I just released. And before long, I wasn't - about a year I'd give it, I started getting gigs. Freddy takes an interest in Naz and summons Naz to his cell. It could have been cathartic for me. Sign up for our weekly newsletter. Terrys acerbic wit and take-no-prisoners attitude has entertained generations of morning commuters, but she has crossed our standards of decency for the last time. And I just, like, you know, I just didn't think I was going to be living very much longer. I've never had a boss like Marty., Pa. declares Code Red due to poor air quality from Canadian wildfires, A phone in Phillys Rail Park lets you speak to the dead, New survey on red flag laws, license requirements shows holes in Pa. gun control legislation, advocates say. When youre in office and youre going to be running for election again, your biography becomes part of your campaign story. I - you know, I packed my backpack with a bunch of PJ sandwiches and - you know what I mean? Tonya Mosley has been named the new co-host of "Fresh Air." The whole - it made me question myself on every level, you know, those events happening so early on in my life. Contact Fresh Air. Jesse: Thats interesting. Sometimes they tell the truth, and sometimes they dont. I let go. Ayo, banker, cash me out, yo. In 2008, Williams told Terry Gross the story behind the scar on his face. Boy, you want a hit on that body? I dont have to come up with stories to tell. They used to have no problem with bits like the Fresh Air Challenge. I mean, she literally locked her interns in a fart chamber until one of them needed CPR!. Did your agent send them a picture? Jesse: Ive heard you describe yourself as shy. WILLIAMS: Music videos, going on tours and stuff. I was like, oh, this dude clueless and had nothing to do with Hollywood light or who I was at my job, some human being, just basic human being stuff. It was a little too close to the white meat at the time. If you watch this show, you know this has happened over the years. Podcast. When it comes to movies and TV, our producers Ann Marie Baldonado and Lauren Krenzel do the movies and TV. Since joining NPR in 1975, Gross has interviewed thousands of guests. GROSS: And this is a church that was really important to you during a difficult period of your life. So as a result, I ended up hurting myself a lot, you know. I think, on the whole, you need to be a specialist who follows these congressmen, presidents, vice presidents, cabinet members, whatever, on a daily basis, and you didnt just like study up on it. Chalky was a releasing, you know. GROSS: In fact, the opposite. Let's just - let's keep striving. And so the thought of you playing that role made you laugh. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. You know, I don't know if that's going to ever happen. So I feel like I have to limit my diet of it. Because its all about prompting people to share their expertise, or tell their stories, or just like reflect on their lives, or their faith, or their experiences. Terry: I think every interview is different. I have to be able to talk to anybody about anything. So, you know, he ended up getting home - going home safe. What Omar wasn't respected for in the hood was being gay. Makes no difference. She's not, you know - my mother's - the relationship that she and I have has been tested many, many times. Ambivalence in Exile: After fleeing Pakistan, Ahmad Noorani attempts to regain his footing as a journalist, The Fight for Good Information: A journalist and an anthropologist on how to understand Brazil. Holy Shit: This Street Performer Was So Good I Almost Gave Him Money, The Next Health Guru? Scan this QR code to download the app now. Just surprise me because I just want it to flow. You know, they could lock your body up, but they can't like your mind up. That's why I take it. WebTerry Gross (born February 14, 1951) is an American journalist who is the host and co-executive producer of Fresh Air, an interview-based radio show produced by WHYY-FM in Philadelphia and distributed nationally by NPR. Chances are its brand new, and most people havent gotten to see it, or read it, or hear it yet. We're listening to my 2016 interview with Michael K. Williams. You know, I saw other men who who said, yeah, me too - out loud, you know. He's got a new album called Orpheus Descending out this month. Hands. I was really casting about for something to do, and it felt natural to me. Its all an act, Jesse. You are in their body. wrong place, wrong time. GROSS: So why do you think you started using drugs when - or started using them again, I'm not sure which - after "The Wire" was on, after you'd become successful? Let me see them hands, yo. It's tragic that he's gone. When youre reading fiction, you become the main character. He goes, you know, what? 2008: Michael K. Williams Is Only Playing Tough, 2016: Actor Michael K. Williams On Lucky Breaks And Letting Go Of Omar. Solutions for journalists are sparse. And I just never felt like God loved me because I was dirty because, you know, I was damaged goods for whatever reasons, whatever that means, you know. I'm a new listener so I apologize if it is obvious. WHYY bets big against sister station KCUR ahead of Super Bowl LVII. Jesse: Are you concerned about the life of the artist that youre talking to, first and foremost, or the work of the artist that youre talking to? These are the questions afteractor Adam Driver abruptly walked out of an interviewwith legendary Fresh Air radio host Terry Gross. (Laughter) I'm not sure when WILLIAMS: (Laughter) It was mandatory, so WILLIAMS: But yeah. Reports are it was a clip of Driver singing in the movieMarriage Story.. Jesse: Your style on microphone is so warm and genial and considerate to your guest. We'll continue our tribute to him after a break and hear an excerpt of my 2016 interview with him. You know, I come from a, you know, there's a lot of things in my past, some that I did, some that happened to me that, you know, caused, you know, a lot of scars, you know. It was the scene when we was walking down the aisle, Omar coming, drop the drugs out the window. Williams also co-starred in HBO's series "Boardwalk Empire" as Chalky White, a powerful bootlegger in Atlantic City during Prohibition, and in "The Night Of" as an inmate who controlled a prison block on Rikers Island. This is FRESH AIR. The free WHYY News Daily newsletter delivers the most important local stories to your inbox. Jesse: When I hear you talk about your work life, the thing I feel is not that you missed out on parenting. So I assume there was some kind of, like, religious transformation along the way. And, you know, some razor blades came out of some mouths. [5] Wheres the hyperbole? Cookie Notice I used to think that a journalist and reporter were the same thing, and therefore I wasnt a journalist. They can hear the gaps that I sometimes dont notice. And couldnt it have edited the clip in after the interview? TOP IMAGE: Join host Jesse Thorn for a Reddit AMA about what he's learned from making The Turnaround at noon PST on Friday, August 11. After all, rarely does one co-host tell another to stop talking even on the embrace debate sports shows on ESPN. When I started doing interviews, I was in my early 20s. I just dove into that. He was 54. In 2015 the podcast version of the show was the most-downloaded from iTunes. It's weird. Terry: I try to bring those two together. Entertainment Link copied to clipboard NPRs Terry Gross doesnt interview most of her guests in Philly. Laura Dern, right, and her mother Diane Ladd have adapted a series of their conversations into the new book Honey, Baby, Mine. You know, I had a few spots, things that I had done. Facebook. But, you know, so that's what those two deaths felt like for me. He didn't approve of drugs. And I was happy in the direction that, you know, the universe was taking me as far as, you know, the business was concerned. And I was like, that's a great, great angle. He walks out there because he knows that, OK, I'm not - I'm off right now. The rest is history (laughter). Jesse: What about Fresh Air do people complain about, and how does it affect you? And I'd - I had did a - I did a spread for this company called Rock Embassy, and they made all the tour jackets for recording artists like, you know, Queen Latifah, Janet Jackson, Madonna, had all those tour jackets, you know. So you said that anyone who knew you growing up would know that you weren't the kind of person who inspired fear. You are totally seeing things through their eyes. A day after a testy exchange on The View when Whoopi Goldberg told Meghan McCain to stop talking,the two co-hosts addressed their on-air dustup on Tuesday. For the next five weeks, the Columbia Journalism Review and MaximumFun.org will broadcast conversations with some of the worlds greatest interviewers. Jesse: Its kind of odd. That might have not sounded right, but Im a self-conscious person. Tonyas wide range of knowledge and experience, her warm inviting presence, and her ability to make a deep connection with guests, make her a perfect fit for our show, said Gross. Jesse: Do you feel good about the fact that it has been? He became famous for his first major role on "The Wire" as Omar Little, a stick-up man who robbed drug dealers. I want to thank all the Airheads that have supported me over the years, Gross added. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday nights Im preparing interviews. Did that figure into your life at all? GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And, you know, I got - you know, ended up homeless for about a year, so WILLIAMS: My family's not really big on that entertainment stuff. God is never going to want me. It's just - I think she's just happy to see me alive and happy doing something I like to do. Want to get this briefing in your inbox? WHYY offers a voice to those not heard, a platform to share everyones stories, a foundation to empower early and lifelong learners and a trusted space for unbiased news. Contact The Show. Let alone articulate them to no one in particular, with nobody there that youre talking to whos responding directly to what youre saying until you open up the phones. Free Press, Functioning Democracy: You cant have one without the other. The producers are doing more research for me now, and I think thats really progress, too. I don't have that. Peabody Award-winning longform interviews on arts & issues. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. I don't think you were even wearing slippers or shoes, goes to the neighborhood store to get it and kind of, you know, brings it back. It was a barroom brawl, you know, typical New York City story. Family is everything, right? You feel me? (Courtesy of Fresh Air). GROSS: I feel like maybe I understand a little bit more what you were saying, like, if you were molested, I could understand how you would feel like you didn't have that kind of physical power. But the anger, the emotions, I didn't know what to do with those when people would, you know, create those emotions in me, what do I do with that? You know, it's a very dark state of mind to be in, a very painful state of mind. Because if you just studied up on it, which is the position I would be in, its hard to really know where is the truth. HECTOR: (As Marlo Stanfield) This ain't over. I always, you know, was the life of the party, growing up stuff, as far as dance was concerned. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. So, yeah, and it just - that scene that you saw was pretty much just - we just kind of got into these characters, man, and got into their minds and went with it. I just wonder if you ever imagine what your life would have been like had it not been so subsumed by this one monstrous project. I stayed in areas like Broadway Dance Center. To help me get to who the person is, and to use the persons life to help us understand the larger things that theyve crystallized in their works, I see that as a kind of feedback loop. One turning point in the series was when Omar's boyfriend was murdered, setting off a cycle of retribution. You know, how do you deal with that? There is so much out there. GROSS: So initially, how did it change your life? And I came back from that, and I was like, you know - I said, I'm going to get my life together, and I was - I went to school. Did you hear a lot of Rikers Island stories when you were WILLIAMS: Yeah, D-Block, yeah, House of Pain, One Main, House of Pain. WILLIAMS: And so for me to connect, you know, I, you know, again, the whole alpha male aspect, I don't know how to know how to - I'm sorry. One drink too many (laughter). But it does happen. He was always there in the community. and Word Up! See those brothers you pray with, the Nation of Islam? Thats progress. June 16, 2023 We're revisiting Terry Gross's 2009 interview with musician John Mellencamp. I like that ring, too. So we be kicking it now on a whole other different level. Heres why. I always thought, How the hell do you do that? The way I think of my work is to see the art and try to kind of extract what makes this really special and turn that into questions that can lead to interesting responses that will be of interest to people who havent seen, or read, or listened to the work. Were really passionate. WILLIAMS: But, you know, she - I must say, though, she does not watch "The Wire." My first gig was Kym Sims. So kind of diverted the energy towards me, and, you know, some words were exchanged and tempers got hot. As one of Michael K. Williams' many fans, I was so sorry to learn on Monday that he'd been found dead in his home earlier that day. And Omar told him - expressed to him, you know, how ignorant that looks and how much he didn't, you know, like those words coming from such a beautiful mouth. You know, he's going for cereal. CBS told HuffPost in a statement that it was reviewing the complaint, that it would vigorously defend itself against a lawsuit and denied retaliating against Vinograd. I want to know the mistakes that I made. One is I have a very imperfect memory. It was being recorded to play at a later date, allowing Fresh Air time to run another interview. Ping On: Hong Kongs unrelenting independent press. That's why I decided to put it. I didn't feel dirty. While 49 killed journalists is a troubling number, its actually down 44% from a year ago and represents the lowest number of journalists killed in 16 years. Let's get back to my interview with Michael K. Williams, recorded in 2008, during the final season of the HBO series "The Wire" and the role that made him famous - Omar Little, a stick-up man who robbed drug dealers. I'm Terry Gross. Like so many of his fans, I first saw him on the HBO series "The Wire" in which he gave a riveting and charismatic performance as Omar Little, a stick-up man who robbed drug dealers who were in no position to complain to the police. Hell, no, I didn't feel worthy of opportunity like that. I felt comfortable doing it. Another semi-regular voice on Fresh Air, Dave Davies, has been acting as a fill-in interviewer while planning to reduce his daily involvement with the show. Driver also likely comes off looking like a diva. And so when "The Wire" and the character of Omar ended, I had zero tools, personally speaking, in how to deal with letting that go. And I just worked all of that up and lived in that, so - and that's what people was attracted to, his - whatever they were attracted to, I just didn't know how to differentiate, OK, that is Omar's love, and then you have Michael's love. GROSS: Now, Ed Burns, one of the main writers on the show, told me that Omar's first onscreen kiss wasn't in the script and that you actually improvised it. For more information, please see our Peter Crimmins. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Maybe the associate producer has, maybe they havent. That is under kind of laboratory-controlled conditions. And we going to spend the rest of this day. Scheduling is just like this really complicated chess game. And he says, write your full name down and your email, said, I'm going to go get you a Bible, man. She was awarded a National Humanities Medal from President Obama in 2016. How Malditas BuloBs helped residents battle scams and hoaxes despite threats, Organizations in South Sudan, Ukraine, Nepal and other countries join the growing community this year. I was - it was a real experience. It just was not the case. That's a first. A House committee released testimony from two IRS officials who said Justice Department officials stonewalled efforts to investigate Hunter Biden. And I didn't equip myself with the tools of how to wash that off my psyche. I - you know, Omar, like I said, is a real - it's a dark state of mind. WILLIAMS: You know, that could easily be perceived as ignorant as for a person who lives, you know, on the edge, the way Omar does. This is our gig and sometimes it goes off the rails and it does. I mean, he was a stick-up man. But, like, I, you know, I said earlier, Omar doesn't - he doesn't operate from a you better fear me, you know, and I'm the bad - the big, bad wolf, and I'll kill everybody. This morning, as I record this, his death is being investigated as a possible drug overdose. If you're familiar with Essex County and particularly Irvington and, you know, certain parts of The Oranges and especially Newark, you know that there's a lot of violence that goes on there, a lot of death. All public radio fans welcome. She clearly does not watch "The Wire" at all. This opportunity to continue the work alongside Terry and the Fresh Air team is a dream come true.. Were not tearing the set apart., McCain then said coverage of Mondays exchange was sexist. She said, I think the media is blowing it up;I just dont think it would happen with men.. He died Monday at the age of 54. And he stopped everything he was doing, ran back to New Jersey just because his team at the church told him that some, you know, some guy named Omar was in trouble and needed to speak to him. Dave Davies has been filling in for her on Fresh Air for weeks now from what I can tell. And you have to be concerned about, What if its adversarial?. By March, I got the call for "The Wire.". I used to do 10 interviews a week, and now Im doing four. So theres a level of candor thats hard to achieve in a political interview. GROSS: Tell us how you got the part of Omar. You know, I was seeing that I was being given an opportunity. And that was my first gig, and I ain't looked back yet. I feel like I would be doing our listeners a disservice if I wasnt able to deliver on all of that. Terry Gross is the host and an executive producer of Fresh Air, the daily program of interviews and reviews. The Hacker: Runa Sandvik has made it her lifes work to protect journalists against cyberattacks. One source told The Daily Beastthat Driver was encouraged to remove his headphones while the show played a clip from one of his movies. But there are times when the structure I figured out hasnt worked, and the restructure Ive tried to do to compensate hasnt quite worked either. Latest Show; Terry Gross. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. But she is fine, and looking forward to getting back on the air sometime next week. WILLIAMS: Oh, wow. Where do you go with that? As a nonprofit organization, we rely on financial support from readers like you. WASHINGTON National Public Radio parted ways with long-time Fresh Air host Terry Gross yesterday after the controversial Philadelphia radio personality asked guest U.S. Later, we'll hear the interview I recorded with Michael K. Williams in 2016. We're remembering actor Michael K. Williams. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. And you know, kind of - you know, I had to sleep on a few couches, few trains. You know, Brooklyn's in the house. Send us your comments, questions and suggestions. Your life had to change by something as major as that? WHYY is your source for fact-based, in-depth journalism and information. I'm dirty. I always felt like, you know what? GROSS: One of my favorite Omar scenes is like - as I remember - he doesn't have, like, the breakfast cereal that he wants, so he goes out wearing only his robe.
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