Resurrected humans will never die again. This makes the interpretation of Genesis 6:1-4 referring to divine beings plausible. If our hypothesis is that sources C and S were mistakenly copied to become S and S, then we still have to explain the abundance of follow-on transmission errors. In a way, this objection is simply a red herring. These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. Resurrected humans will never die again.19 So since resurrected Christians nor angels can die, theres no need for them to have sex and make more of themselves.20 Angels, being immortal, dont need to eat in order to sustain themselves either. Genesis 19:10 informs us that the two angels had to physically grab Lot and pull him back into his house to avoid harm in Sodom, something that would be hard to do if the two beings were not truly physical. 24: Gregg Davidson, Friend Of Science, Friend Of Faith: Listening To God In His Works and His Word, 2020, Kregel Academic, page 98. This argument says that because Seth was the replacement child of Abel, as mentioned in Genesis 4:25, they were the worshipers of Yahweh. and wielded influence throughout the Mediterranean. quotation worked for God and were on Gods side. At any rate, its quite oversized. 19 And when you approach the territory of the people of Ammon, do not harass them or contend with them, for I will not give you any of the land of the people of Ammon as a possession, because I have given it to the sons of Lot for a possession. (It is also counted as a land of Rephaim. The names are out of order. That the men are from Seths lineage and the women are from Cains lineage must be read into the text, which is eisegesis, not exegesis. Couldnt a Nephilim freely choose to accept God, repent of their sins, and be saved by Him? On the other hand, it seems quite evident that his brothers were men of low character. Leiden; Boston; Grand Rapids, Mich.: Brill; Eerdmans, 1999., 428-29; I. Zatelli, Astrology and the Worship of the Stars in the Bible,, chapter excerpted from Mikes first draft of his next book , http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/What%20is%20an%20Elohim.pdf, The Unseen Realm: Recovering The Supernatural Worldview Of The Bible, https://taylormarshall.com/2018/05/1-enoch-and-angels-having-relations-with-humans-within-jude-and-2-peter.html, The NIV Application Commentary: 2 Peter and Jude. https://www.gotquestions.org/resurrection-body.html. The Watchers descended from Mount Hermon having been sent out by God, but they wanted to be worshiped as gods themselves. They did not survive the flood. 1: Most English Bibles do not read according to the number of the sons of God in Deuteronomy 32:8. So Jones is basically like, Look! When Enosh had lived ninety years, he became the father of Kenan. Theyre embarrassed by the supernatural view. 30: Baalzebub, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Revised. The right hand column below is equivalent to the left hand column. Read from Genesis 4:17 thru all of chapter 5 in your Bible. Psalm 82:18 1 says God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? However, while polygamy is a sin in The Bible, there are various instances of it even regarding biblical heroes, as Jones himself points out. This may have served as a protection from the wrath of his fellow-men, or it may be that God only gave him some sign to assure him that he would not be slain ( Genesis 4:15 ). Behold, his bed wasnine cubits in length, and four cubits in breadth., Amos 2:9-10 [T]he Armorite[s]height was like the height of the cedars.. However, Jones is presupposing that Nimrod is not a semi-divine person. Tell me, if you have understanding. Thats why I said Im inclined to believe that, not that I absolutely do believe that. He sees no substantive connection between the Sumerian Kings List and the Bible in this place, suggesting that time and retellings scrubbed any equivalence away from the earliest Mesopotamian traditions before they made their way into the Hebrew. Perhaps at one point, God sent these angelic beings out on a mission to do something. The sons of God are not said to be of Seths lineage, and the passage calls the women daughters of men (Adam in Hebrew) rather than Daughters of Cain. God surely intended more complex human communal systems to arise, but since these are descendants of Cain, Scripture indicates that they were not working alongside God to produce these developments. This is not at all an implausible hypothesis because as Godawa points out in his appendix to Gilgamesh Immortal, the Hebrew writers of the Bible frequently engaged in the renaming of enemies for political purposes. To do so commits the logical fallacy known as the argument from Silence. Who and what are the Nephillim? We are no longer in the power of the evil gods thanks to Jesuss atoning death and Resurrection. Then the Lord said, My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years. The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. Cain and his wife (Awan) gave birth to Enoch. Some of these proposals can account for some of the data, but not all of the data. 36 Whos to say Peter and Jude didnt share that belief? ..' In the New Testament, the evangelist Luke calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:38. (Yes, there is significance in this, but not for us in this Bible Bit.) For I hear the whispering of many Terror on every side! Or perhaps a series of copyists followed this initial mistake with a series of other corruptions. The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible . One of the most popular interpretations credits LamechCain's great, great grandsonwith killing Cain. It seems as though Canaan had giants all over the place! (Speiser/Anchor) Thats how we know. So those who are sons of God are sons of The Most High! Or should we believe that the rumors were false? There is no where in The Bible that says that angels are incapable of becoming physical under their own power. Cain was a rebellious man who rejected God's plan, ignored God's warnings, and received God's judgment. The short lived battle between him and the shepherd boy David is recorded in 1 Samuel 17. So since resurrected Christians nor angels can die, theres no need for them to have sex and make more of themselves. , determine that that it what it means in Genesis 6. When Giants Were Upon the Earth: The Watchers, the Nephilim, and the Biblical Cosmic War of the Seed. The purpose of this genealogy is to explain the origin of culture and crafts among human beings. But Heiser says that it gets worse for those who cling to it, Numbers 14:36-37 says that And the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land, who returned and made all the congregation grumble against him by bringing up a bad report about the land the men who brought up a bad report of the landdied by plague before the Lord.. June 2, 2017 at 4:47 pm. That sons of God is used to refer to divine beings in various other passages makes that meaning in Genesis 6:1-4 very plausible. In his book Reversing Hermon, Dr. Michael S Heiser writes For example, Genesis 1819 is quite clear that Yahweh Himself and two other divine beings met with Abraham in physical flesh. Yes? Angels, being immortal, dont need to eat in order to sustain themselves either. Most proponents of the angelic-hybrid view simply bring up this point as a part of the cumulative case, not as a single conclusive argument. This is the view I think is true. Theyre men, not half god/half human creatures.. Kindle Edition. But who are these angels? Does it matter that the count is ten, and not nine or seven or thirteen? most often is used of ordinary men like we read in Genesis 12:20 and Genesis 13:8. Most proponents of the angelic-hybrid view simply bring up this point as a part of the cumulative case, not as a single conclusive argument. The cities are great and fortified up to heaven. Because if Jude and Peter both understood the sin of the angels as the sin described in 1 Enoch, then we have overwhelming evidence that the sin these apostles were talking about were angels producing offspring with human women. Seth became the father of Enosh. I believe the Nephilim are hybrids of angels or gods (lowercase g) who took on physical flesh, mated with human women, and this produced the Nephilim who were giants. , https://www.gotquestions.org/resurrection-body.html, 20: Im sure readers will immediately ask Wait a minute! Genesis narrative Cain leadeth Abel to death, by James Tissot, c. 1900 The story of Cain 's murder of Abel and its consequences is told in Genesis 4:1-18: [2] [i] And the human knew Eve his woman and she conceived and bore Cain, and she said, "I have got me a man with the Lord." Jones then goes on to say that even if Angelic hybrid proponents are correct in saying that the Nephilim are the direct offspring of the sons of God and Daughters of men, the problem is that the immediate context of the text defines what the Nephilim are for us. 31: Godawa, Brian. Human beings were just as guilty as the divine beings who left their proper abode as Jude 6 to 7 says. He says, The vast majority of academic dictionaries routinely explain this word as the mascuiline plural form of the Hebrew verb naphal (on other words, the fallen ones), but the linguist Michael Heiser has pointed out a problem for this view. This is especially obvious in the case of Job 38. of the evidence In support of angelic being view, such as the fact that it would explain why every single ancient culture has myths of demigods and mythical hybrids, that it would explain why the Flood was even necessary to even get animals in an ark, and that it would explain current phenomenon of witches and devils being said to be sexual partners, and the Apostle Pauls command in 1 Corinthians 11 for women to cover their heads because of the angels (the medical knowledge of the day held that the hair was part of the sexual procreation system). Jones underlines the part of the passage in his YouTube video that says these were the Mighty Men who were of old, the men of the name. The Hebrew word here is gibborim. But regardless of whether Godawas speculation on Gilgamesh and Nimrod have any basis in actual history, the Bible is clear that giants appeared After the flood. Another notion that didnt conform to the reality of the text was that the word G-O-D is only a name, not just an ordinary noun. So, it isnt at all implausible to say that ancients knew that if you crossed a divine being and a human, you would get something freaky. The human authors and original audience were not aware of this scientific concept, but The Holy Spirit knew of them, since He is God, God created the universe, and God is omniscient. But for now both Cain and Seth will have lines of descendants. Evidence 2: 2 Peter 2 and Jude Interpret The Sin Of Genesis 6 as Being The Sin Of The Watchers In The Book Of Enoch. One of the Dead Sea Scrolls written in the first century B.C. ed. Lamech is a descendant of Cain, the sixth generation from Adam. And Enos liveth ninety years, and begetteth Cainan. All others are lesser elohim/gods/spirits. He is not God of the dead, but of the living. And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.. Because they have not ruled justly, God will bring them low in judgment and take the nations away from them. Unconverted men are called sons of God as well, although, in some places, the exact phrasing is not used. It appears from what the Bible tells us that none of Cain's descendants, the sons of men, survived the Flood. As Michael Heiser says Michael Heiser writes . But, doctor Heiser gives a complete list of the occurrences. It doesnt come from Moses, let alone God, but the ten Spies of Israel who didnt want to initiate the conquest despite Joshua and Caleb saying they could conquer the land. Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. If this is case, then the answer is less obvious. The notion that stars were animate divine beings was part of Israelite thinking. In fact, almost everyone agrees that Polygamy was the norm in the Ancient Near East well after the time of the flood, and yet God lets these marriages go on. They ate a meal together (Genesis 18:18). Young Earth creationist argue that there for everyone, human and animal alike, had a vegetarian diet. In this variant spelling in Numbers 13, we see a scribal gloss indicating the base word of Nephilim was originally pronounced with a long E. This means that the word Nephilim cannot be derived from the verb like to fall because verbal forms in Hebrew are never spelled this way. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. Stanhope goes on to say that this etymology is powerfully supported by the fact that Jewish texts from the intertestamental period routinely translate this word with the Greek word Gigantas. There will be more on this gods-allotted-to-the-nations topic in a future paper in this series; namely the one about Genesis 10-11. Is Irad supposed to by Jared? However in the Old Testament 7 out of 10 times it refers to Divine or Angelic beings. Joshua utterly destroyed them with their cities. True Enosh lived ninety years and fathered Kenan. For example, some say that Peter and Jude were using a common source with Enoch. On the other hand, it seems quite evident that his brothers were men of low character. His coat of mail alone weighed about 125 pounds, the weight of his spearhead was 15 pounds. Ive already made my view clear right from the outset. As argued above, angelic beings are capable of becoming physical creatures. I think Jesus death was certainly to suffer the punishment for our sins. The true Kenites were a Canaanite people who inhabited a portion of the promised land in the time of Abraham. In Steadmans view, this is why the fallen angels tried to pollute the bloodline. The Case For The Reliability Of The Gospels Part 7: What About Contradictions? Regarding Numbers 13:32-33, Jones says So this passage is used to argue the word Nephilim means Giants and it connects the word to people of great height, but wait lets stop for a minute and ask whos giving his report. It seems Unthinkable he just lie to get his brothers in trouble. That God does not mention the Divine beings in his statement of who he will not strive with wherever is no indication that there is no one else that he is driving with it. The only mention of Cain's wife is in Genesis 4:17, where Cain and his wife had a son. But Genesis 18 clearly has two angels and a theophanic Yahweh eating lunch with Abraham. See the wonderful interlinears at Scripture 4 All and the official original language texts at the German Bible Societys Academic-Bible sites. H. Niehr, . This view also recognizes that Genesis 6 presents a violation between a non-human lineage and a human lineage. So, manuscript differences aside (we have not studied them for this Bit), perhaps we have the names just as the parents produced them, with no corruption and also no hidden message from God via this non-duplication. Or when Jesus cries out My God! As far as I know, the descendants of Cain did not die as did the descendants of Seth . In this passage, Jesus says that at the resurrection, humans will be like the angels in Heaven in that we neither marry nor be given into marriage. This would also make sense as to why some of Canaan's descendants (descendants of Anak were Canaanites) were called Nephilim in Numbers 13. Lets look again at the alleged matches, this time with the Hebrew. Only The Quasi-Divine Being Theory can account for all of the facts. They soon named a city after their son. I thought that this section of Inspiring Philosophys video was the weakest. On the one hand, when it comes to passages like Genesis 1 and 2, I say Interpret The Bible in light of its Ancient Near Eastern context. Regarding the first, Michael Jones says First, nothing from the Hebrew Bible survived to the present, except for these four verses, it can hardly be argued that this passage refers to any sort of a union between women and divine beings. The fruit of such development produced the evil society before the Flood. For example, some say that Peter and Jude were using a common source with Enoch. He was the son who would become chief over Adam's family. Heiser, Michael S.. Was renamed by the Jews as Jezebel, which is a slurring word play on dung (2 Kings 9:37).31 In fact Genesis 11:9 even explains its polemical renaming of the city of Babylon (gateway of the gods) to Babel (confusion of tongues). And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his sonEnoch. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Play Episode Show Notes Episodes QUOTE Its used to refer to human beings at times as well. And cites 2 Samuel 7:14, Exodus 4:22, Deuteronomy 14:1; and Psalm 80:15. This is especially obvious in the case of Job 38. In response to this argument, Heiser wrote a footnote in The Unseen Realm (p. 192): Some try to argue that the report of the spies was a lie or deliberate exaggeration motivated by fear. Or when Jesus cries out My God! Moreover, the term sons of God (beney ha elohim in Hebrew) almost always refers to Divine beings in the Old Testament. But in Numbers 13:33, theres a complication with this etymology. Kindle Edition. (JPS Tanakh) And what crime did they commit?. My God! If you study The Bible closely, youll see there were more giants around than just the Anakim. 5: Godawa, Brian. Men of the name! Well Jones says that this doesnt tell us anything and even Heiser admits that the size of ones bed doesnt tell you how tall they are. That sons of God is used to refer to divine beings in various other passages makes that meaning in Genesis 6:1-4 very plausible. Oddly enough Gods own statement tells us who causes anger it was men not men in Divine beings. Perhaps this is an ability that God bestows on his heavenly host when He needs them to carry out a certain task. So, if Jones is going to argue that gibborim, mighty men, means that the Nephilim were just regular human beings, then he would have to say that the men who went to visit Lot and saw them were not really angels and that is obviously not a valid interpretation. You shall have them for food. Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the performance of this enterprise; And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime. But they answered him and said; We all swear; And bind ourselves by mutual execrations, that we will not change our intention, but execute our projected undertaking. Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual execrations. The word is hyperbolic, but hyperbole always points to a severe situation, such as when someone says This suitcase weighs a ton! they mean to communicate that the suitcase is very heavy. And I dont think its at all implausible to suppose that any of the angels in Heisers biblical list could have had sex that resulted in a conceived child if they so chose.
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