Thank you for supporting Nehemia Gordon's Makor Hebrew Foundation. I heard five different opinions. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until iniquity was found in you. How is Genesis continually able to generate new insights into humanity and what might it teach us today? Beit Midrash Ask the Rabbi Calendar Wiki Dedications. That's not unusual in Hebrew writing for something to be one time be presented chronologically, and then in a different section it'll be introduced by subject rather than chronological. Thank you 1) The reason you don't hear more laughter from my students is because the microphone I use does NOT pick up background noise. My little nutshell nugget is verse 14. The way Hebrew marks what got eaten is by saying et. language. There are things in the solar system which support the young-earth viewpoint. My point being the whole purpose of a material universe is completely glossed over as per the usual. Nehemia: Its a snake. Keith: Hey, no cursing. Any human with that admixture cannot remain in the place of . Again, thank you, Keith Johnson and Nehemia Gordon. Now, we're all in trouble, but I just want to throw in one more thing before we move on. Atzeret is an assembly, so it's the eighth day of assembly. Your thoughts? Interpretations abound, but to Gordon, sometimes an et is just an et.What was hot-wired into the sun and moon on the fourth day? I have no problem accepting or I have no problem with somebody who says that the world's billions of years old, and maybe it is billions of years old, I don't really know, I wasn't there. It is true the the 7th day completes the week. Watch. I'm sorry, everyone is going to be angry at me now, but it drives me insane. I want them to be brought along in the process. From the beginning of the Creation until the time of the end we have the very WORDS OF YEHOVAH! How do I then explain the dinosaurs and things like that? But they were not necessary for the measurement of time on Day One. Coming from that perspective, I would say there's a number of possibilities of how to understand this, and you mentioned one of them, which is the Gap Theory, which you mentioned to me before, so I'll let you explain what that is. Ah, how marvellous, now I get it and understand why I am being whispered to by my pets, they always get their treats that way, just realized this..thank you for giving me that comprehensive insight! I tend to think that it was actually six literal days that God created it and look, He could have done it in a split second if He wanted to, so He didn't even need billions of years. Intentionally. If you would like to support our efforts to transcribe the teachings on NehemiasWall.com, please visit our support page. It was fun, particularly for those in Israel, but its come and gone. But anyway, it does raise some interesting questions on the Spirit of God hovered upon the face of the waters. When we talk about God's spirit, or God is a spirit, my understanding of it is that He is infinite. That's what I was looking forward to. Interesting discussion guys. After logging in you can close it and return to this page. Keith: Hold on guys. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? I mean werent the Elohim there too? I like the way that they camped in the shape of a cross in the desert. I don't know. In the Jewish tradition, we definitely don't have that. I remember we sat down, we were in a park on a bench, which looking back now all these years later, I suspect it wouldn't be done that way today, but back then was a more innocent age. Learn more at NehemiasWall.com. This is, I guess, a future discussion, but verse 14, talks about the sun and the moon. I actually believe the opposite. What that commemorates, of course, is when they were in the desert it was very, very hot, and they would sit all day in these booths that had covering of palm branches and various other things. 1.about the chronological problem of Gods creation, Nehemia refers the view of numbers of jews is not that exact as the Christian or westen view. Yes. Nehemia: Although, it's kind of a strange way to introduce me, but I think that's appropriate in the context. I did not say to Jacobs seed, Seek Me in vain. So I just wanted to bring that up. Nehemia: The real answer is that the person who created the chapters was the Archbishop of Canterbury, Stephen Langton in the beginning of the 13th century, and he had an agenda. This fallen angel corruption has been a Jewish idea for centuries, maybe even prior to Jesus. Keith, I have a question. I never really went by the Lectionary. Keith: Here's what I thought he was going to say Jono. How long have you been reading? Rabbi Gordon - Chayei Sarah: 5th Portion. The theory goes like this: Hebrew letters have special meanings, and when you examine the meanings of the six letters in bereshit ( beyt-resh-aleph-shin-yud-tav) they form a sentence: "The Son of God is destroyed by his own hand on the cross.". And that's definitely the case in chapter 2, whereas chapter 1 is explicitly intended, whether you say it's billions of years or six literal days, it's intended to present something in a chronological framework. Upon meditating on the hidden words within the first hebrew word recorded in Scriptures, "Bereshit", ('in the beginning') many truths are discovered and we see God's whole plan of Salvation is laid out in this one word. I cant read Hebrew well enough to know if this is all born out in the original text? Now, the reason why I throw that into the mix, my friends, is because now, dear listeners, you have the opportunity to continue to listen and to glean Pearls from the Torah Portion. Watch. Of course, for those who aren't sure what we're talking about, in Revelation, I am the Alpha and the Omega in the Greek, the Aleph and the Tav in the Hebrew. Hallelujah. I'm not sure theyre going to get a better opportunity to interact with Scripture than being able to have a person like Nehemia, who lives in Jerusalem, the Hebrew Bible is his text; it's the text that he attempts to live by. Even the word, merachefet, let's see if I get it. We've got Nehemia, we've got myself, and it's somehow that the Ruach, the spirit of Elohim, would hover over this and would bring light to the folks who are literally in darkness because they don't know. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth., Bereshit in the beginning has not been fully translated correctly in the English. Jono: So it doesn't necessarily have to be the personal spirit, right? That's my Methodist approach. In the sense of Ecclesiastes it may really matter at all what we think. I have heard that that word can also mean naked. It is so wonderful to have a Hebrew perspective. Sounds good to me. Now, let's talk about how. Then other times, they're actually having substantive discussions about that Torah portion. But basically, you have two ways of looking at it, I think for most people, which is what they call Young Earth creationism, that is a literal 6,000 years since creation approximately, give or take, and an Old Earth creationism which is that the world is billions of years old according to modern science. So Nehemia brought up a really great image. YHWH Elohim alone created the heavens the earth, the seas, and fountains of water, so fear Him, because the hour of His judgment occurs without fail. Keith: What does merachefet mean? Jono: Listen in, my friends. Thanks. View all. I found that to be an interesting concept. What was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? So, the reason I brought this up regarding the Ruach Elohim, that some people say that that's Yeshua, one of the things that I'm finding is that - and I think this is the power of what we're doing, of what we can do here - even though it's one little topic we're talking about, out of a portion, by us giving the information there are literally a lot of people that are going to listen who just never heard it in any other way. Keith: Well, I thought here I was so excited that I was going get a chance to bring Nehemia to, In the beginning, was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and move on. Hard job? Jono: Thats beautiful. Lets not get into that, but I know that the Jewish understanding of Satan is an almost an entirely different thing when we look at the Book of Job, obviously. Then, He came to a formless world and took six days to change it to support life. One of the things I've learned from you, Keith, which I appreciate, is don't make assumptions about people and let them define themselves and don't stick them into a box. While we're here, this is the first place that it's mentioned, Bereshit bara Elohim et ha-shamayim. Et, has a very specific purpose. Now, Sukkot is over. That's where Keith: You say its the seventh day. Is that true? Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; I do have a question, :Without form and void What is the exact translation from the Hebrew text ?? Well, since we don't do that anymore, being scattered in the diaspora also even now back in Israel, that's just not done. And of course, as you said, believing in this gap or not, it does not affect my relationship with God, but it certainly makes me see that, in fact, everything was created by his Word/Hands, including the dinosaurs (or the rests of them). There the messiah witnesses YHWH creating. That is the way I see it, but I ask God to always make see the truth, so I can fix/change what I believe. Moving away from theories and interpretations, Johnson shares his own take on the creation storywhere the original language speaks to him in such a way that he sees and feels the darkness flee and the light be. Remember, like all documents of this type, it is opinions of Spiritual matters expressed in Physical reality concerns. By Yehoshua B. Gordon. Nehemia: We were sitting on the beach in one of these, in a sense, an authentic sukkah, because it's still being used for what the original sukkahs were used for, covered in palm branches down there. Anyway, it's a long story. Humans gained an evil inclination in their hearts, not just outside of them in the form of a snake. Go ahead. The lesson is taught using the original Hebrew text with the indispensable commentary of Rashiboth translated and elucidated so that anyone can follow along. They might not understand it, either. Nehemia: Well, today actually over in Israel is Shemini Atzeret, which is the Eighth of Assembly. theological belief of referring to Jesus, I think latter one is just Nehemias respect of different view. He doesn't believe in Yeshua or Jesus as the Messiah. And before I got into the whole discussion of which option it was, Nehemia and I were having this great long conversation, he probably doesn't remember because it was over wine, but I said to him Keith: Yes, you remember. And the answer is in verse 2, that the water and earth are intermixed. It's just a beautiful picture. Jono: The first thing that comes to my mind is the seventh day, I would say, it's Shabbat. Hence it is written, 'In giving them the heritage of the nations, He hath declared to His people the power of His works': He declared the beginning to them. Parshah with Rabbi Gordon. I dont think if this approves some contrast between estern and west. Doesnt that say exactly just that in Genesis 1:1? I think there's a bunch of images that are really, really powerful, and I guess I could stay on this verse all day. I am specifically referring to the conversation bit. Because of that, it's actually not chronological, because if you compare the sequence of events in chapter 2 with chapter 1, you'll see theyre different. Chumash and Rashi. We need light in relation to observing the passage of time as a means of communicating the information to us. Visit https://www.netiv.net for more info.Help us keep the content flowing, donate today: https://www.paypal.me/netivPLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND HELP US REACH 10000 SUBSCRIBERSWebsite: https://www.netiv.netApple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3mcseHrSpotify: https://spoti.fi/39BodY5Check out: @torchweb @Azamra6000 @Yiboneh @tenaktalk @ToviaSinger1 @JewsforJudaismCanada @manisfriedman @SpiritualBabies So like I say, when I look at those seven words, I'm like, Wow, in the beginning, He created it. There is Pearls from the Torah Portion. ____________________________________. This, of course, is the first one, I'm so happy to be able to do this with you guys, and so once again I thank you for coming on. By the host of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trade, you have profaned your holy places; thus I brought a fire from your midst; it shall devour you, and I will give you for ashes on the earth, in the sight of all who see you. Fill us in; what happens once Sukkot comes and goes? All things were created through, by, or for Yahushua, meaning that YHWH created all things with Yahushua in His heart to make everything filled. Then I remember in verse 2, I asked him, and this has, I think, been my character ever since, that if somebody says something that I don't understand, I don't let him get away with it. Jono: Okay, so, the earth was without form, and void. Now, I have a question. But in verse 2, I remember him say, And the spirit of God hovered upon the face of the waters, and I said, What does that mean, hovered? Have you seen those videos where the sound waves cause different beautiful patterns to form? The workmanship of your tabrets and of your pipes in you, in the day you were created, they were prepared. So whatever the theory is, my faith to Jehovah as Creator is still the same. We were in the car somewhere, and I was driving, of course, and he had his feet up on the counter. Is that fair to say, Nehemia? Nehemia: So this is actually an international assembly, is what youre saying. Rabbi Yehoshua B Gordon Encino, CA November 27, 2011. What hovered . Bereishit 5774, 5781. Jono: There it is. You can't do that with any language. I don't believe that. But my question is, Nehemia, when this portion is unrolled, I mean people would say, Okay, we're going to do this. What would they actually do? Well, I guess we are assembling here online. There is very clear explanation on this in the beginning of book one of Tanya (the first five or six chapters) available on this web site. I first read this in a Jewish commentary. You have been listening to The Original Torah Pearls with Nehemia Gordon, Keith Johnson and Jono Vandor. Nehemia I was able to listen to whole program with no problems. His Spirit hovered over the surface of the water. Isnt it interesting, in Revelation were told Whoa to the Earth and Sea for the Devil has come down to you having Great Wrath, knowing that his time is short. So here we are, and this is what we're going to do. I love the thought of my Father, our Father. I have no problem with viewing it that way, but my main point is that, within the Jewish tradition, we're fine with saying that if you want to believe the world's billions of years old or if you want to believe it's 6,000 years old, neither of those really affect your relationship with the Creator of the universe. search. You could very legitimately argue that when it says day, it doesn't have to be taken to be a literal day. Old earth or young earth? Now, Nehemia, the reason I want you to bring this up on our little radio interview here is because what we want to do is, we want to go ahead and tell the image of the ex-smoker and why Nehemia: Well, if you've ever met an ex-smoker, they hate smokers. If it appears to be billions of years old, I'm fine with that because, as you said, when God created Adam, he probably looked like a 30-year-old man or maybe a 14-year-old boy, but he didn't look like a baby, presumably. We start anew? One was to begin and end it on the eighth day once a year, on the eighth day of Sukkot. Job38 is part of Gen1:1 before we start on Gen1:2. Otherwise it comes across as confusion. I hope that they would not leave listening because of that, but that they would look for where we have some common ground. I think there's going to be so much that's going to come from this, when we actually interact with the language itself and the history and the context of this Bible, without completely throwing them under the bus. What can we learn from the language the Torah uses here? And then the discussion of all of the specifics, sort of the general statement, here's the title, In the beginning, He created everything, that's what I believe. They won't admit it, some of them, but they hate Christians. When they burned themselves or felt pain, they finally had fear. Appreciate any teachings I can find of yours. I YHVH speak righteousness, declaring right things. I dont think it means Noah was perfect, but rather that he had no corrupt DNA. Now, this is obviously one of two Nehemia: When Georgia steals the peanut butter off of the counter and eats the whole thing, she knows what she's doing. That is what Genesis focus on, the establishing Gods order on Earth, and then with the crown of creation, the human being. I read that YHVH created the universe in the beginning. The Quran confirms this (latter) matter, in agreement with the Tanakh. I believe that God is infinite and He can interact with the finite, but I think, for me, the questions are sometimes more important than the answers. thank you, Seems to work fine. We were just sitting there with the book, and he would read, Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz, you know, with his Ashkenazic accent, and then translate. It is indeed tempting to try to resolve the two stories, to say that the first six days of Bereshit actually took 13.7 billion years, or something similar. Keith, any thoughts? Weekly Torah Portion from Rabbi Yehoshua B. Gordon (of blessed Memory). I also believe that the whole process starting from verse 2 is literally 6 days but, from verse 1 to verse 2 I believe there is a gap of many years (could be hundreds, I dont know) and this is why: 1. (notice the term rosh (, "head") appears embedded in the word as its shoresh (root)). I just want to make a point here, but I just want to remind everybody that his email, if you would like to get Hebrew lessons from Yoel, it is hebrewinisrael@gmail.com. It's the eighth day of Sukkot, although when it says to live in the sukkah, to dwell in the sukkah, its only for seven days. It says, And they shall be, it says, for signs and for, they translate, for seasons and for days and for years. And the word they translate as, for seasons in Hebrew is actually mo'adim, which is the Hebrew word for appointed times. 2) Thank you for your warm words.
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